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Is Limewire illegal?

I just have one question to ask you and i dont know if you know but you are the only site that talked about this subject that was close enough and had a part where i could write a question. Is the Limewire an illegal website? My cousin tells me that he has downloaded limewire but this was over a year ago and he says it is illegal but I have told him that it would have been shut down if it is illegal and it has been around that long. If you download this you can get free music,videos and etc. So is it illegal??? The website were you can download it is www.limewire.com


Dave's Answer:

This is a very interesting question because it points to a subtlety of copyright law and also highlights how the enabling software for illegal infringement of copyright can itself be neutral, that is, used for either good or bad purposes.

In a nutshell, Limewire and similar "peer to peer" or p2p file sharing tools (BitTorrent is another popular tool) are perfectly legal and there's no prohibition on distributing the applications or having them on your computer.

However, just as having a magnet that could influence the wheels in a slot machine could sway you to using it illegally, so having software like Limewire can influence and encourage you to receive downloads of audio and video content that is indeed illegally distributed.

Here's how the Limewire folk respond to this question:

"Copyright laws and laws pertaining to patents and inventions protect original works of authorship and inventions. Individuals who reproduce, distribute copies, receive copies, publicly perform or display works or inventions other than their own and without the consent of the owners or holders of rights, or their authorized agents, in original works of authorship or inventions, may be in violation of copyright, patent or other intellectual property infringement. Lime Wire LLC does not encourage or condone the illegal copying of copyrighted material. This is not intended to be legal counsel or advice. If you have any questions, consult your attorney."

Of course, try downloading the Limewire application from their site and you'll find you have to answer a question that highlights that they are well aware of its most common use:

Limewire download: are you going to use it to infringe on copyrighted material?

Indicate that you "might" use it and your download fails with the error "Lime Wire LLC does not distribute LimeWire BASIC to people who intend to use it for purposes of copyright infringement."

Pardon my skepticism. It's like MySpace forgetting to warn you that the majority of people who sign up for an account inevitably lie about their ages.

Anyway, let me show you how incredibly easy it is to find illegal content to download before you dismiss what I'm saying.

I agreed on the download page that I wouldn't use Limewire to access copyright infringing material, downloaded it, and started it up on my Mac. Then I popped over to Amazon.com and randomly picked one of the top selling audio CDs in their music store, the new album All The Roadrunning by talented artists Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris.

I then typed in "mark knopfler" into the search box on Limewire and waited no more than 90 seconds to find:

Limewire download: the latest album by Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris
Click for full size image

That wasn't hard, was it? And clearly the songs from the album that are shown in Limewire aren't legal copies distributed by either the musicians or their label to increase sales of the original CD.

To be fair, with some file sharing systems I do believe that the people who would, for example, download a 350 page illegally scanned PDF of a book aren't the people who would have bought it in the store, but audio content is a different story because with iPods, Windows Media Player, and related, you only ever touch the audio CD once, then it's ripped on your computer(s) and can vanish. Now the content's digital and it's incredibly easy to 'share' it with your friends and the Internet community at large. Even though it's not legal to do so.

Nonetheless, going back to your original question, Limewire is not illegal, but I do honestly believe that the majority, if not vast majority, of its users are utilizing the application to distribute and download illegal content onto their computer, be it "cam recordings" of the latest movies, dupes of commercial DVDs, music, or other materials.

In the end, I'd like to suggest that it's up to each of us to decide how important new content, original materials and creative works are to our society and world. If you have no compunction ripping off artists and musicians, then at least think about the long-term implications of producing expensive movies and related but never recouping the cost and being profitable.



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Comments

I am so sorry for downloading stuff that i should not off. After I read this I deleted Limewire (i have only had it for 3 days) and all the stuff I downloaded with it.

Posted by: someone at November 1, 2006 12:51 AM

If limewire is legal why do they have a section for program's (comeone that just encouraging people) . There is hardly any moderation . The filters don't work . Theres easy access to pornographical content . Lot's of viruses . Why don't they just filter maccramedia /adobe/microsoft/nero/anyother software distrubeters programS ?

Posted by: Patrick.s at November 30, 2006 12:22 PM

ookay, sorry to say this but, I am really kind of mixed up.
Is limewire ok or not?
ehehe, feel free to call me stupid ^__^' i'm slow.

Posted by: kitty kay at February 8, 2007 6:58 PM

Kitty, sorry for the confusion. Limewire itself isn't illegal, but the content that you download is quite likely to be illegal and your possession of that illegal content also breaks the law, according to the MPAA and RIAA. Hope that clarifies things a bit.

Posted by: Dave Taylor at February 8, 2007 8:40 PM

Hey Dave,
I understand what you're saying. But I still do have one question that i hope you can answer. My question is:
Are "the people"(i dont know who) tracking down people who download illegal music?

Posted by: nate at February 9, 2007 4:00 PM

i tried 3 times to purchase limewire with my credit card. and cant get on.now i will probably get tripple billed......I need a phone number at limewire that i can talk to pesonaly

Posted by: philip presjak at February 16, 2007 10:29 PM

please send me a phone number via e mail for support at limewire

Posted by: philip presjak at February 16, 2007 10:32 PM

So is limewire legal or illegal???????
2007

Posted by: pr33t4m at February 21, 2007 12:51 PM

Now, I understand that Limewire Basic could be used for illegal downloads and such, because they haven't been paid for. But my question is this: If someone shells out the money and gets the Pro version, aren't any downloads legal, because they have purchased the program, or are the downloads still illegal?

Posted by: Becca at February 22, 2007 2:05 AM

From some of the comments I see people still don't understand how LimeWire works. You are not getting any material from LimeWire. They do not monitor downloads. The paid version just gives you more options and a faster download speed. All material downloaded is peer to peer with LimeWire just acting as the vehicle to move the data.

Posted by: Barkley at February 22, 2007 9:24 AM

Limewire is illegal period. The BS answer "dave" gave you is a load of crap!! If any website/downloaded program allows you to get copywritten intellectual property it is illegal. I am a FAN of recorded music of 24 years and i have seen what downloading has done to the industry.

It is the reason we have crappy music now. Some say that if you are a true artist then money shouldn't matter... imagine giving pro athletes a huge paycut, do you think they would all stick around and play as well? Hell no!!!

They would continue to play because it was their passion but they would have to take a normal job to pay the bills. It's a sad fact but you get what you pay for. Making money in the music biz lured talented people into giving the "big time" a shot thus creating an American music culture of talented people... Now no talented person in his/her right mind would put their music out there only to have it stolen.

Illegal downloading is killing the culture of music. period.

Posted by: matthias at February 23, 2007 5:06 AM

hi, is it illegal to download porno on limewire?

Posted by: tom at February 24, 2007 4:28 PM

I'm being pestered to buy an MP3 for my kids. What type do i need and where's the best place for downloading?

Posted by: john careworn at February 25, 2007 2:53 AM

Thanks for your note, Barkley. You're right, it's not LIMEWIRE that's illegal in any way, it's the data that you can download using the Limewire program (and any other peer to peer / p2p application) from other sources. Not all of it, but a distressing percentage of what's available on the p2p networks is clearly illegal and unlicensed.

Oh, and Limewire Pro doesn't change the situation because the money you pay to upgrade the program doesn't get distributed to the music companies, movies studios, publishers, etc etc etc.

Posted by: Dave Taylor at February 27, 2007 7:25 AM

Oh my god, I always wondered if LimeWire was illegal. I should delete it right now.
I'm also going to delete any songs I downloaded and take them off my MP3 player and destroy my discs.

I feel sooo bad.

Posted by: Funnyjunk at February 28, 2007 6:06 PM

i know its not legal but what are the chances of getting caught and being arrested? PLEASE i need to know. almost everyone at my school uses it and i dont think anyones been caught.

Posted by: bronson at March 2, 2007 12:50 AM

If you do use limewire and get movies and songs and put 'em on your iPod could you be like arrested or fined or something? If so what are really the chances of being caught? ((just wondering))

Posted by: Caitlin at March 3, 2007 9:48 PM

I ordered limewire thinking it was a fun and safe. All that happened was I was ripped off. I have learned of lots of negative feedback. There are no telephone numbers left for help or to speak to someone live. So please tell me why? Please get back to me in a hurry!

Posted by: Jay at March 9, 2007 9:55 PM

hello guys, could somebody please explain this to me, when limewire is peer to peer is that means the person who can upload the song from my pc can also upload other informations from my pc u know i mean anyother files that belongs to me.thanks

Posted by: sam at March 13, 2007 4:35 PM

please please help me!!! Ive just litterally downloaded the free one (just so i could make some ashley tisdale videos) and i downloaded one song, and in the search engine i searched for licenced ones, so did i break the law??? i dont want to get into trouble by my mum! all i want to do is make some cool videos! is that illigal???? please help me! xxx

Posted by: emily at March 15, 2007 1:15 PM

limewire is illegal i think?!?

Posted by: Ady Moghul at March 16, 2007 11:44 AM

Whatever I own, I should be able to share. Since when was sharing illegal? I think music should be all about the live performance. Thats why I pay top-dollar for concerts and share music from the privacy of my own home with people sharing musix from the privacy of theirs. Record companies have been ripping off musicians for decades. . . I think its poetic justice that we are able to share with anyone on the globe. Fight the Greedies!

Posted by: Dave at March 18, 2007 6:05 PM

Wow. Why all the confusion? If you don't pay for it, you stole it. I, too didn't realize this until we actually thought about this and have deleted Limewire. I also thought it was just "sharing" but it's not me giving a copy of my purchased cd to my friend to enjoy for a month. Not the same at all. So I too, appologize for being niave about this.
Final note:If you feel the need to download porn, you have a problem. Get help and turn off the computer. This is a very addictive thing to start getting into. Not to mention, perverse. Sorry, you brought it up.

Posted by: inHizfavor at March 23, 2007 12:33 PM

so can you get sued or arrested for downloadind stuff?

Posted by: iou1brain at March 25, 2007 3:32 AM

look, if limewire was illegal, they would only allow the programs that are free, freeware, they would not allow music downloads. and if you open the music you download in a program that you have purchased, like windows media player, or musicmatch jukebox, those programs give ur music a license to and a copyright . so therefore, it is legal to keep ur music that u have downloaded. just don't tell them u downloaded it!!!!

P.S.: just as long as you use it in a different program, and not limewire itself, they cannot say that u downloaded it, u could show them it in like windoms media, with a licence, that u bought it and put it on ur computer from a friends cd, or mp3 player and they could not say anything.oh, and if its already on ur i pod, psp, mp3 player, etc... they cannot make u take it off. u could say u got it from a friend, and then just delete the music you downloaded.

Posted by: Michael Morris at March 26, 2007 8:28 PM

i dont limewire is illegal. correct me if im wrong, but i havent seen too many (music)artists sue limewire.if they havent done that, they must not have a problem with limewire giving out music. also, if it was illegal it wouldnt be on the internet, right?but thats just my opinion.sorry if im wrong. :)

Posted by: Tim Jacobson at March 27, 2007 12:08 AM

Limewire is not illegal. If it is then that makes Windows or Linux illegal since it allows copying and storing of copyrighted materials.

Posted by: Casper at March 27, 2007 1:14 AM

C'mon, guys. I never said that Limewire is illegal. I said that it enables you to download illegal content. Big, big difference!

Posted by: Dave Taylor at March 27, 2007 1:45 AM

Limewire isn't illegal, period. they do sell legal media, they just allow others to illegally upload and distribute. plus stop being a baby, you downloaded an illegal song and cost the music industry a pretty $1. consider how much the music industry gets in revinue each year.

Posted by: Nick at March 29, 2007 1:43 PM

please help me is there a pretty good chance to get caught downloading songs or anything from limewire and what are the consiquences please help me

Posted by: anonamys wait did i spell it right? at April 1, 2007 9:30 PM

just because the music industry makes a ton of money doesn't make it ok to steal from them! the robin hood theory seems noble but is wrong, stealing from the rich is not ok just cuz they're rich. im sure there is someone poorer than you, but u wudn't want them to steal from you!!

Posted by: kinay at April 8, 2007 10:43 PM

I am very confused about this. When is it legal to download free music? One minute someone is saying that it is legal, then the next someone is saying that it's illegal. How do you know if the song has a license? free downloading is not the only reason why record sales are greatly decreasing. Look at the Ipod. That has something to do with it. And, music is garbage now. Is it illegal to download old songs that are not sold in stores anymore? How do these people get these songs?

Posted by: daincredibleone at April 10, 2007 9:28 PM

So pretty much, downloading Limewire itself isnt illegal. But, if you actually want to use it and download songs or videos or whatever, then it becomes illegal because you arnt paying for them and the artist isnt getting the money.

Correct?

Posted by: drew at April 12, 2007 9:40 AM

I have a question? After I download a song on Limewire, How do I make it go to my Windows media player?? Thanks so much, Nancy

Posted by: Nancy at April 13, 2007 1:29 PM

Only one guy has ever been arrested for uploading music and i dont think anyone has ever even be punished for copyright infringement via downloading off limewire etc. and i think all that stuff i read about the music industry being crippled by downloading is bull, they can make billions more from further exposure on the internet that gets balanced out again by downloaders. the industry is as profitable as it ever was. long live limewire!

Posted by: Doog at April 21, 2007 12:38 PM

The music industry is losing revenue each year because of online ILLEGAL downloading. My friend just lost his job in the industry because of cutting costs. They cut costs because they are losing money, which comes from illegal downloading. Here's another fun fact- 9/10 recording artists out on major record labels are not living the grand lifestyle and making millions of dollars a year like you think. They make as much as you or I or your parents. Think if you were stealing from your parents...

Now to clarify legality issues.

Limewire the program is legal,

what it allows us to do is illegal. ie-download copyrighted music and videos.

What I suggest is that you shell out about 5 bucks a month for Napster (60 dollars a year), which allows you to download as much music as you want for a cheap price (much cheaper than iTunes), and also allows you to put it on your mp3 players.

Tada- problem solved, and solved legally.

Posted by: pat at April 22, 2007 4:25 PM

THIS IS ALL TOO CONFUSING! I get that limewire is not illeagal but the program lets you download illeagal songs. I have i very old version of limewire and after reading this I deleted Limewire, and took away all songs I downloaded.(When I downloaded limewire, it never said you had to agree not to download any songs) OMG why do they make these programs if everyone will alyays download free music. Just use Itunes. It safe, Leagal and sometimes they let you download free things.

Posted by: Derek at April 25, 2007 6:27 PM

I have been paying for CDs for all of my 35+ years, and they have always been around $20/cd. If I buy a CD it's usually a few good songs, then the rest is crap. As the american consumer knows, we have been getting ripped off for dedades. The record companies know this but they are operating their business off of the 'greed' model. The "rock stars" with their eccentricities and ridiculous paychecks are the ones that need to take a pay-cut. And NO, rock stars will not stop making music. There will always be some talented artist willing to take their places. Does Jessica Simpson really deserve millions for her talent, while Amy Winehouse is relatively unknown?

Posted by: Rich at April 26, 2007 12:13 AM

LimeWire isn't legal. But too many people use it for anybody to do anything about it. It was just the same with Kazaa.

Posted by: Lucy at April 30, 2007 12:41 PM

"Illegal downloading is killing the culture of music. period.
Posted by: matthias at February 23, 2007 5:06 AM"

In response to this egg head: If you've been around for 24 years then you might have heard of the recordable tape, video tape, and CD-R. If I remember correctly when the tape came onto the scene the same was said for music and the industry. Fortunately for the Record Companies, there was still enough fresh talent and ideas sprouting to keep them aloft, unfortunately for today it seems that no one is hell bent on being progressive in the mainstream because that's not what sells. What sells is repetition and that's what they put out.

If you take a look at the growing underground scene you can see that there is a ton of talent and it's barely being discovered thanks to p2p programs. Indie music, underground hip hop, all of it is breaking mainstream partly because more people can "listen in" on upcoming artists. If only record companies weren't so greedy, they would see a viable opportunity for free promotion by using the internet. It's unfortunate that they just see everyone as pirates, and have the same stupid ideology that you carry.
idiot.

-rod

Posted by: Rod at May 4, 2007 8:25 PM

Dave is it ok to download songs off limewire into your own computers or mp3 but not sell it to any one or share it waith any one

Posted by: Luis at May 5, 2007 1:09 AM

Two questions:

How do you know which songs are illegal and which ones aren't?

&

Will Limewire cause my computer to crash?

Posted by: Brittany at May 10, 2007 2:55 PM

there are files on limewire that if you download them they will crash your computer try to avoid downloads that are in their millions and over i know cause i had this exact problem and had viruses out the ass

Posted by: Ben at May 23, 2007 3:01 PM

will i get fined if i download movies

Posted by: chase at May 29, 2007 8:40 AM

Ok, my questions answered. (except how to justify downloading songs from Limewire)

Question for :pat at April 22, 2007 4:25 PM, with regards to napster.

Where did you get " 5 Bucks a month"? (2 and-a-half quid, here in Old Blighty).

I downloaded the software with the options of:

£9 or £14 per month. (About $18 or $27 per month)

Posted by: Jay - UK at May 30, 2007 9:32 AM

Two questions

How do u tell legal songs from illegal?

can songs from limewire really crash your computer, and if so, which ones?

Posted by: Kamikazi at June 25, 2007 11:39 PM

download avast antivirus and if u get a virus off limewire it will stop it before it comes in!

Posted by: troy at June 27, 2007 10:27 AM

Ok. to clarify and sum up, limewire isn't illegal. But, many (or most) of the files downloaded off of limewire are illegal. also, don't download it, it screws up your computer!

Posted by: Dan at June 29, 2007 9:57 PM

I think it's pretty stupid not being able to download music , If you pay for the internet then you should be-able to do anything you want with it.Everything thats on the internet should not be ilegal to download.About a couple months ago.. I downloaded a music sharing program ( morphius ) then limewire...I downloaded maybe 100 sounds or less , not sure..then 3 days later Charter Communications called our house and warned us about downloading music.They said that was just a warning , next time we would pay.So that just tells you that downloading music is pretty risky.

Posted by: Josh at June 30, 2007 2:31 AM

I down loaded lime wire whitch was to be free. I( ended up paying $34.00. I'm stuck on how to move the songs i selected to my pc. There is no number or support site to help me. Can you help?

Posted by: tom at July 4, 2007 9:51 AM

Here's the thing, I don't have LimeWire, i deleted it, it was useless, never used it, I always used iTunes Music Store, its more fun, and look if LimeWire is illegal, the the government should close LimeWire and all P2P clients out there, it would do better to society and a society will be more legal.

Posted by: Enrique Caballero at July 5, 2007 11:40 PM

Everyone knows Limewire is illegal and many people still use it. It is like people using drugs. They know it is illegal but they use it anyways.

Posted by: Andrew at July 9, 2007 8:21 PM

if limewire is illegal then why isn't the program or the website taken down???????

Posted by: bob at July 11, 2007 7:49 PM

Bob, go re-read what I wrote. Limewire isn't illegal, per se, but the majority of its use and utility to the online world is for downloading illegal, unauthorized copies of software, music, videos, etc. The Feds can't make Limewire illegal, however, because there's also legit, public domain and open source material available. Nonetheless, if you use Limewire to download illegal material you are indeed breaking the law...

Posted by: Dave Taylor at July 11, 2007 8:59 PM

Just FYI there is a iTunes program that I added to my iTunes called iLike. Basically when you are buying a song from the Apple web site, or are playing a song via iTunes it pops up similar songs that are of the free garage band type groups that are not copyrighted. So if you like a group, say The Rolling Stones it will find groups that sound like them, but the groups are a bunch of musicians that have not copyrighted their songs, aren't ex[ecting to get paid and just enjoy sharing their talents with others.

Posted by: Ron at July 16, 2007 8:47 AM

has any individual been sued for using limewire yet...and do you believe it will happen soon in the future?

Posted by: sabrina at July 28, 2007 5:16 PM

Seriously people! Limewire isn't illegal to have its just software. Its only illegal if you download copyrighted items. Think of it like a knife. It isn't illegal to have the knife, it is illegal to stab someone with it. Now on to my opinion of the subject matter. Why do people feel bad for ripping of millionaires? These people get free stuff "swag" everytime they turn around. I wouldn't feel the least bit bad. Besides most of them use it for drugs and what not and end up with nothing anyway...have you seen VH1?

Posted by: Fed Up at August 2, 2007 12:32 PM

i no the discussion is about the legallity of limewire but this is the only site i can find that doesnt charge to make a comment. i have had limewire years and love it but recently i have been watching the incoming searches screen and have noticed a disgusting amount of child porn searches all with the name r@ygold afterwards has anyone else seen this because maybe we can do something about it.

Posted by: lodgy at August 7, 2007 3:36 PM

So, are all the files illegal ones, or what? I don't understand. Wouldn't they all have to be illegal? How would you use Limewire "legally"? Also, I heard a girl in Tiltonsville, Ohio got sued for 2,500?

Posted by: Limewire Lover at August 16, 2007 11:13 AM

Ever heard of the radio as long as the record companies are broadcasting music into my life for FREE across the airwaves how can they possibly complain about people recording that music or sharing it with others. Take a lesson from The Counting Crows who not only encourage sharing of their music they go out of their way to help people by letting them plug in recording devices right into the sound board at their concerts and then putting a how to get it for free right on their website. This has created a die hard following of fans who gladly pay $50 - $60 for a ticket to see one of their shows and has put a huge cut into the record companies who like to make as much money from a band as possible. Lesson to be leared giving your music away for free will let the public decide who is good and reward them by paying for tickets to see the good people play.

Want even more proof look up and watch an old MTV episode about the band TLC and how they went bankrupt while selling platinum albums, the record industry is set up to rape artists not reward them. Live shows is where the money is really at for a band, and free music is the best advertising that they can get for this.

Posted by: Dingo at August 17, 2007 9:10 AM

Limewire is legal unless you sell copywrighted info without permission. SO IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. IT EVEN SAYS IT ON THE WEBSITE!

Posted by: Jo at August 22, 2007 4:24 PM

Jo, you're wrong. It's not about whether things are for sale or not, it's whether your use of them violates copyright or not. Finally, it's not like Limewire's going to explain all this on its site, is it? :-)

Posted by: Dave Taylor at August 22, 2007 4:43 PM

It's the record companies who are ripping *us*, the listeners, off. I'd gladly buy music if a) it was priced more reasonably (who can afford to pay $15 a CD?) and b) I knew that money was going to the artists.

The idea that this is stifling innovation is ridiculous. Maybe in the short term it will, but in the long term artists will adapt. Old methods for making profit from media are no longer working. Let's see some of that innovation and entrepreneurial spirit, instead of this whining. Welcome to the digital millennium, people.

Posted by: S. at August 24, 2007 4:23 PM

letme give an example..... its like taking candy from a baby wich is stealing!! if the kid agrees in giving it to you its totally ok.....

see limewire is technically legal.... as a program
its legal in wich you could share something that is not copyright wich could be something like a home video or a song of your band it just cant be copyright

on the other the only thing that is illegal are the users who are abusing it by sharing the music that is in copyright....


if the britney spears (her lawyers or producers) decide to give permision to limewire for file sharing it is 100% legal ..... see no artist would do that because its just like working free .............
would you like to work in store and 75% percent of those people who are there are stealing all your merchandise that you bought to sell....
same as an artist..... file sharing COPYRIGHT music is ILLEGAL

Posted by: jennifer at August 28, 2007 5:32 PM

Thanks for clearing it up!
Right after i read this i deleted Limewire.
I still dont get why Limewire is legal, but it lets you download illegal music.
The government should shut it down.

Posted by: Danielle at August 30, 2007 10:34 AM

if limewire is illegal, wouldnt the government have taken it off???

Posted by: themetalmulisha at September 12, 2007 3:01 PM

I bought a pile of 33 lp's in the past if i download for example Elvis song is it illegal since i paid the right to own the song 15 years ago or i have to pay a second time because the format changed and maybe a 3rd time if they change for a new format.

Posted by: Rodney at September 13, 2007 8:36 AM

I heard that you can download Limewire Pro off Limewire basic..
it's kind of ironic

Posted by: Luke at September 16, 2007 2:54 PM

In short limewire itself is not illegal dispite what some people have said in this thread it is in fact LEGAL althought people use it to obtain illegal content but im sure thats mostly whats on there i have played with the interface and the limewire program will alert you if the content you are about to download is not licensed which most of the time these unlicensed files ar illegal depending on the content do not fear the use or possession of the program only the content that you download

Posted by: Tim at September 19, 2007 7:16 PM

So, if I buy a CD, and let my friend borrow my CD that I purchased (by physically handing it to him), that's illegal sharing? Likewise, if I buy a book, and let a friend borrow it when I'm done, that's illegal sharing, too???

What about when I was a kid, and I'd tape the "Top 40" songs off the radio-am I guilty of copyright infringement? Please! Get a grip! If not for music downloads, some of these so called artists would never even be heard of!

Posted by: Brian at September 24, 2007 1:14 AM

i personally think more artists should be like weird al yankovic. you see, he doesn't care if his music is downloaded at all.
hmm...

Posted by: al fan at September 24, 2007 2:36 AM

WOW, does my head hurt after reading all this.
I manage a musician, FIVE TIMES AUGUST. For those who think downloading music for free is ok, and it's just ripping off millionaires who use $$ for drugs, or ripping of record companies, boy are you WAYYY wrong. This is coming DIRECTLY from someone this effects on a daily basis.

Brad (Five Times August is all one guy)'s song "Better With You has been downloaded ILLEGALLY (Brad owns the copywright) over a million times on limewire. It's been purchsed legally on itunes.com 45,000 times. That's means less than 10% of people have purchased it legally. Would YOU work for less than 10% of your income?

Brad has made a decision to remain unsigned. He's been offered deals by 4 major labels in the last year, but isn't comfortable giving up the rights to his music (when you sign to a label, the label then owns the recordings, not the artsit.) We are a small team, just Brad and myself. Brad has a new record ready to be released, but no money to release it, because 90% of the people who know about him stle his music!!

Bottom line, this is the music BUSINESS. As with any business, if your product doesn't sell, you go out of business, period.

Kelly Vandergriff
FTA Management
www.fivetimesaugust.com

Posted by: Kelly Vandergriff at September 26, 2007 10:28 PM

Sorry for all the typos...I was typing fast because some people's outlook on this is so frustrating!

Kelly Vandergriff
FTA Management
www.fivetimesaugust.com

Posted by: Kelly Vandergriff at September 26, 2007 10:33 PM

Hello know i know everything about limewire well ....... the fact this girl got fined £10000 for downloading of limewire and other p2p programs she had about 2 - 3 p2p programs INCLUDING LIMEWIRE and was fined for illegal downloading

Posted by: hSS at September 27, 2007 10:02 AM

It is very confusing-it seems limewire has 'tricked' a lot of people. If it allows illegal activity, it should be altered to be used such as the other legal ways to download music-it is legal for the company to have the site running, but unethical since they know (and now we know...) that the users are doing something illegal. Some understand that (users), but it appears most of us were unaware

Posted by: Z j mik at October 4, 2007 6:59 PM

woah, i just read all these comments!. im conviced now that downloading music from limewire is illegal!

can i just say this, to people who think musicians just use their income to by drugs and get wasted - that aint true for all great musicians! think about it - Hillsong Church - you can download their songs on Limewire, probably most the money they earn goes toward - helping 3rd world developing countries, churches, their churches and instruments to worship more. - So druggies or no druggies - musicians deserve to recieve money for people listening to their music!


also i feel really bad about using limewire - i have been using it for over a year now - i have some really great music on my iPod too and it's going to be really hard deleting them all! -

....do i have to delete my previous downloads, or can i just never use limewire again??????? lol!

and wat can i do to help others to relize limewire downloading is illegal

Posted by: Tamara at October 7, 2007 8:22 PM

i think that lime wire is legal, even if you do download musiccccc .... DOWNLOAD MORE MUSICCCC
YEHHHH

Posted by: your mom at October 9, 2007 10:32 AM

I'm going to post a blog on this myself, because as Tamara said, it might help to spread the news. I didn't read all of the comments (the first half I did) but here is a simple explanation on the laws and legal use of limewire.

1. Limewire is legal, fun, and COULD be safe (if not for viruses).

2. Downloading files from limewire such as music that you created, produced, and paid for yourself is fine. You can even allow others to download it. If a band, such as Hillsong, wanted to allow people to download their songs for free, thy could even use limewire to do so. It would not be illegal. Or, if I want to be able to share my report on ethics in Christianity with my friends, I can put it on limewire for them (and others) to download legally.

2. You do NOT own a song just because you bought the CD it is on. You have the right to listen to the song, but not distribute it. Other companies (like radios stations) have the right to boadcast the song, but they cannot sell it. And stores have the right to sell the song, but not necessarily broadcast it in their stores for everyone to listen. For the radio stations and stores, they must pay royalties to the actual owners of the songs so that they can continue playing the songs. Otherwise, it is illegal.

It is even illegal to play, sing, or do something with a song written by someone else in a concert or in like a church if you are not paying royalties for the act. Yes, though it is rare, Christian Musicians can come and sue a church if they play a song in their church during worship without having a license to do so.

There you have it...another answer from anotherguy

Posted by: Tim at October 9, 2007 6:00 PM

i just think your all nutts of course downloading songs without paying is illegal. your not paying for them, its like going into a store and pinching a bunch of cd's
MY GOD!!

Posted by: dani at October 10, 2007 3:31 AM

ok first of all downoading on a peer to peer software such as limewire is not illegal, in general downloading of the internet is not illegal. most peer to peer programs make you upload your own music by either doing it behind you back or asking you the same question differently many times. the peer to peer softwares arnt illegal so the are not shutdown the illegal part of peer to peer on the internet is the uploading of files through kazaa, limewire ect.

Posted by: andy at October 19, 2007 1:33 PM

can u get fined for downloading music off of limewire yes or no?

Posted by: Eddy at October 20, 2007 6:41 PM

To put it simply, Limewire is not illegal to use or distribute. Using Limewire to download copyrighted material, however, is. Yes, you can be prosecuted, if convicted of using ANY p2p for copyright infringement purposes. The idea that keeps p2p sofware legal is that it was created as a means to distribute and transfer original and non-copyrighted material over the Internet.

Posted by: Brandon at October 31, 2007 1:30 PM

I used to use limewire but then i deleted it after all these new issues came up about it.

So is it ok or not to use limewire?
How would i know what is right and not right to download?

Are "the people" tracking down people who download illegal music?

Posted by: lissa at November 3, 2007 1:23 PM

ok, let me get this straight. Its illegal to download music from limewire because its not yours and u cant contribute it.
Then explain a cd burner? what does that do? it allows us to make copies of cds i have. I buy a cd, burn a copy, i have another copy instead of buying another one, so y arent cd burners illegal? Whats the point of a cd burner then cuz from what i hear what u guys are saying , doing that is illegal also.

Posted by: Nathan at November 3, 2007 9:19 PM

I wonder why wenever I redownloaded lime wire the next day its gone I didnt even download it my cousin did.

Posted by: lime wire user at November 9, 2007 9:32 PM

i just read it and now i have a GIANT headache.

Posted by: lime wire user (not any more) at November 9, 2007 9:54 PM

SO IS LIMEWIRE LEGAL OR ILLGEGAL??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????I GOT LIMEWIRE YESTERDAY AND I HEARD THAT ITS ILLEGAL.YOU TELL ME.

Posted by: Brian at November 15, 2007 2:07 PM

look.all u out there .take a computer class cuz u guys dont no anything about limewire.frostwire.sunwire.shareaza.nore. LIMEWIRE ISNT ILLIGAL.DOWNLOADS FROM IT R.when u download this ur screwed even iff u delete it.no matter wut its in ur hard drive 4ever. the limewire can hack ur harddrive shut it down. and when u take ur computer in to get it fixed theyll ask wut happened and when u mention limwire u get sued,prosocuted,fined put in jail for 1 yr.so worry iff u downloaded it.i will tell u one way to completely get rid of limewire. smash ur harddrive.or get sued. sry but it is the sad truth

Posted by: chris at November 18, 2007 11:09 PM

could you please specify what exactly on limewire is illegal and what is not? for instance, the program is not, but the way you use it is. can you please explain which concepts you use it for are legal and which ones are not? Thank you!

Posted by: Nicole at November 19, 2007 4:59 PM

u no.limewire is not good for your hard drive even iff u use it ligally.illigal part of it is downloads.music,pictures,videos.

Posted by: chris at November 20, 2007 1:57 PM

Limewire, Pro and Basic are not illegal programs and its perfectly legal to download the software. Whats illegal is the sharing or downloading of copywrited material, ie, music video etc. When you buy a CD you are paying for the material and that gives you the right to listen to it and burn it to a PC etc. When you download music from Limewire you are taking a copy that someone else has bought (or not as the case probably is), therefore, you do not have the right to own it. Sharing music way back when you lent your new cd to your mate was also illegal but nowhere near on the scale sharing takes place in Limewire. Thats why music companies now want to target people who share/download music, because they are the people who fuel the illegal downloading of copywrited material, not programs lile limewire.

Posted by: Mark at November 21, 2007 12:15 PM

Dave (et al) Thank you for putting the answer into plain layman's terms. I plan to share this information with friends and family that have been misled. Although your page is copyrighted, I trust that sharing the information and comments is not illegal.

Posted by: Larry at November 23, 2007 3:19 PM

umm, i have a question, how can you tell if a file is legal or illegal?

Posted by: Shadogate at November 26, 2007 4:17 PM

They monitor the P2P server then sue you as a James Doe to get ISP to give up your info, suing you over uploads of copywrite content. 25,000 suits to date - less then 1% of active DL's. Bit torrent automatically makes you upload as you DL..Read about it on the web google RIAA lawsiut. I rather buy used thru Amazon.

Posted by: shark at November 27, 2007 9:10 PM

This whole conversation has been extremely interesting and I do understand the difference between Limewire being legal (also the money paid to do the PRO or extended versions are for the application itself, not the downloading of files from it).

However, I have another question. There are artists out there that do allow their music to be shared, not just the unknown artists, but those who do see some value in sharing their music on many venues. LW shows some copyrighted works using Creative Commons and Weedshare. In addition, the songs that I searched for that didn't show a license did have a Bitzi ticket that stated the song was available for reuse via Creative Commons for Attribution and Share-Alike. Are these also illegal to download for personal use on my computer and/or iPod? I'm not familiar with these (especially the Bitzi Ticket).

Thanks

Posted by: InterestingConvo at November 30, 2007 10:06 PM

After reading through the whole posting trail I was moved to answer for myself.
I have used LimeWire for over 3 years and have to be quite honest... every time I click on the icon to start the software I ask myself "Am I going to get caught for downloading this music?" I quickly brush off that inner voice by saying "millions of people are downloading ILLEGAL music using LimeWire I am just a drop in the bucket" Is LimeWire illegal? NO. Does LimeWire let you download illegal music? YES. One other point I want to make here is that when you install LimeWire it defaults to run in the background upon startup of your computer. This sets you up for massive instances of illegally uploaded files. Also you have to configure what folders you are willing to share on the network. I personally only download and share almost nothing. I know this is sort of a copout excuse for using LimeWire but this is how I justify it. I get no monetary gain from the music I have downloaded nor do I share it with others. I see it like this: I listen to the radio for free why not some old tunes I find on LimeWire?
Enough said....use LimeWire at your own risk and be careful how long you leave your computer on with LimeWire running in the background you could potentially be sharing millions of songs without even knowing it.

Posted by: Luke at December 1, 2007 10:36 PM

Wow. Some people are just flat out brainless. Limewire is a genious program. I need to shake the hands of the people who invented it. It washes their hands of any and all crimes. The crimes comitted are done so only by those who upload or download. They use a P2P Network based on tiny islands outside of the US.

Posted by: 1337 at December 3, 2007 7:56 AM

Quick question, if I download music from Limewire and save it on my computer for personal use and don't intend to sell it or anything would that still be illegal? I mena I'm just downloading and listening, not making profit out of it or making hardcopies.

Posted by: Marcos at December 6, 2007 2:36 PM

So if I can kinda spin this? Your saying that Limewire isn't illegal, but the majority of the stuff on Limewire IS. Such as guns aren't illegal but killing people is. (Stupid stuff like that helps me clear stuff up.) I use it to get songs for my mp3 player, but if I can get into as much trouble as I hear you can get into (1 yr + $25 per song!!!) then I may well stop! I do like InterestingConvo's explanation of it (because it is convienent.) But I still want to know (have you ever seen the rain?) How can I tell if what I'm downloading is illegal? eg. What are legitimate sources? Also, sites that offer free mp3's? Trustworthy? Thank you!

Posted by: Kurtis at December 19, 2007 10:55 PM

I read you answer regarding Lime Wire and agree wholeheartedly with it. You brought up a side issue which I have a question about.

Is loading/transfering the songs on a CD that I purchased at a store via Itunes onto my own Ipod legal or must I purposely purchase the songs via "Itunes" to load onto my Ipod?

Posted by: Thomas at December 26, 2007 10:35 PM

As far as I understand, Thomas, copying media you own onto players you own (for example, ripping a CD onto your computer and copying that to your iPod) is considered "fair use" and is indeed legal. I hope so, I have tens of gigabytes of music on my iPods that I ripped from the hundreds of CDs I own... :-)

Posted by: Dave Taylor at December 26, 2007 11:21 PM

yeah limewire is not illegal everybody has there oppinions on this matter i can assure you it is not i was reading through the list and seen a couple of you guys get it does anyone remember winmx that was illegal because all you could do with it was steel copyrighted material or how about napster same for that but when you get in to bearshare or kazza or limewire etc... it is not illegal you have to understand you cant stop them because they specificly state that they do not condone infringment and will not tollorate it either because of that fact it just isent if you say otherwise you would have to say apple itunes is also illegal because you pay them for the song or rights to the songs with limewire you can download a pic on the otherside of the world from your friend that s not wrong is it but if you as an individual should choose to break the agreement whith the company in wich builds the program thats your fault and your wrong doing not thairs you are the one who commited infringment not limewire or bearshare just think of this i live in florida and im constintly hearing of people getting busted for infringment and most of ot was done with p2p and such and they dident shut em down like napster or winmx oh by the way winmx is back up to prove a point and there you guessed it now using p2p to operate you dont believe me google it oh and it looks stupid now it looks like limewire but all red

Posted by: Rand at December 27, 2007 9:42 PM

Downloading from Limewire is legal. Uploading is Illegal

Posted by: Nelie at December 29, 2007 8:44 AM

omg it is so confusing. why would limewire let people download or upload illegal stuff.how do you know if a song is illegal????plz help

Posted by: kayleigh at December 31, 2007 4:01 AM

is there an official government website anyone knows about telling about limewire? has anyone here gotten caught and had to pay fines?

Posted by: geret at January 2, 2008 2:40 PM

When you buy a CD, you are basically purchasing a license to play and listen to the music. You own the physical materials - the disc, the case - but NOT the music itself. You can rip the songs from the CD onto your computer, but the moment you make that music (mp3, wma, whatever) available for others to use, you are effectively distributing the songs. They're not yours to distribute. Yes, dubbing tapes and giving the copies to your friends in the '80s was common practice - and illegal. When you use LimeWire (or any other p2p software, for that matter), you are opening up a specifically designated folder on your computer for the world to rifle through and take what they desire. If your ripped music (or copies of DVD movies or software or games) is in that folder, you are aiding in the illegal distribution of copyrighted material. You do have a choice on where to keep your ripped files - they don't *have* to reside in the folder you designate in LimeWire.

An excerpt of the fine print off my DVD of Jet Li's "The One" goes a little something like this:
"Unauthorized public broadcasting or copying is a violation of applicable laws." Those would be *copyright* laws.

There is a lot of grey when it comes to copyright law. It wouldn't hurt to look up copyright information on the internet...
just a suggestion.

Posted by: dugfresh at January 3, 2008 7:25 PM

While you're at it, go ahead and do some Google searches for "illegal downloads limewire fines" and "hacking limewire users."

Also wouldn't hurt to read over this:
http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2005/12/limewire-faq-on-security.html

The average computer user knows just enough to be dangerous, much to the delight of hackers.

Posted by: dugfresh at January 3, 2008 7:44 PM

Another thought:
Those of you who used LimeWire Basic, then purchased the Pro version, and intended on using LimeWire (either version) to download music, I just have one question: Why did you buy Pro? Why not just use LimeWire Basic to search for and download the Pro version of LimeWire? If you're not going to pay for music, why pay for the software that lets you download the music?

Just curious...

Posted by: dugfresh at January 3, 2008 7:53 PM

And if this doesn't clear everything up for you, you should turn your computer off, unplug it from the wall, and cancel your internet service.

http://www.limewire.com/about/copyright.php

Posted by: dugfresh at January 3, 2008 7:58 PM

READ THIS WEB SITE IT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!! http://www.limewire.com/about/copyright.php

Posted by: Dale at January 9, 2008 11:26 PM

OMG. How many people can't understand the answer to this question??

Limewire = Legal
Using Limewire to download copywrited content = Illegal

Or just consider this one:

Baseball bat = Legal
Using baseball bat to rob someone = Illegal.

Next time people should read the article BEFORE commenting on it... sheesh!

Posted by: Gabes at January 14, 2008 3:15 AM

If I do used limewire and i accidentaly get an illegal file will the goverment of some other people sue or come after me?

Posted by: Gage at January 23, 2008 3:13 PM

People...if you carry on aking if it's legal or illeagal....my suggestion is....just don't download it...

Posted by: Anonymous person at February 2, 2008 9:47 PM

The only thing wrong with files that are shared using p2p connections is if they bring in a profit for the person "sharing" them. Most movies, compact discs, and even vhs have disclaimers clearly stating not to make profit. They say nothing about sharing it. The source of most of the files being shared is a legitimate meduim.

Posted by: Nick Jablon at February 9, 2008 1:28 PM

Nick, you're wrong. Sorry, but loss of revenue from you downloading a song / movie rather than buying it is damage enough for a court of law. Whether or not anyone profits from it (and it's no surprise that most of the torrent sites also have online ads (e.g., profit) and that Limewire has a paid premiere edition (e.g. profit).

Posted by: Dave Taylor at February 9, 2008 3:42 PM

Well if having it isnt illegal but USING it is, then duh, obviously its all illegal. You dont just have it without using it do you?

Posted by: jcook at February 12, 2008 9:38 AM

Did you know you can download Limewire Pro from limewire itself. Awesome stuff.

Posted by: 31 at February 13, 2008 4:24 PM

For those who say "limewire is illegal because it lets you copy things illegally", I have to ask: is your VCR illegal because it lets you make copies of your movies?

Of course you can use it to make illegal copies, just as your VCR can make illegal copies of movies. However, there are a lot of programs out there which are perfectly legal to distribute freely, and they use limewire, bittorrent, and other p2p networks for perfectly legal distribution.

In other words: it's illegal to use it to do illegal things, but it's perfectly legal to use it to do legal things.

Posted by: Ken B at February 15, 2008 11:22 AM

I repair computers for a living and I have never seen a computer with Limewire on it that didn't have a virus or major spyware issues.

Posted by: Wayne at February 19, 2008 8:22 PM

so is it still illegal when the music is downloaded after the release of the album??

Posted by: Palak at February 27, 2008 6:04 AM

limewire is not illegal! just the upload is illegal the download is not illegal

Posted by: swissmafia at February 28, 2008 11:47 AM

i have a question after reading this...
is there anyone tracking u down? and for downloading songs from limewire can u go to jail?

Posted by: Lorence at March 3, 2008 7:18 PM

I AM TRYING TO DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE JAVA FOR 2 DAYS IT WILL NOT FINISH. EVERY TIME IT START COPYING FILES IT WILL GET STUCK. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM.

Posted by: angela carter at March 6, 2008 12:27 PM

Ok i dont think there is anything wrong with limewire. If you download them usic its ok, but if you donwload the music, store it on a disc, and sell it, you are in trouble. If dowloading things from limewire is illeagal, wouldn't youtube be as well.....i mean if you just download the music onto a disc and listen to it on a cd player im pretty sure you wont get arrested. also, dowloading it onto a mp3 player...(ipod) would be illeagal...why dont you just pay a buck for a song....its not that hard.....

Posted by: HEADSHOT at March 8, 2008 1:34 PM

So.. limewires illegal.. wow.. i really didnt no.. once again... you save the day dave xD oh well.. i guess my computer is full of illegal stuff then xD but.. is bearshare legal or illegal?

Posted by: Cozer at March 15, 2008 4:50 AM

Ok hey now like other people im getting really confused :S but ok i don't download any movies or any documents only songs. and so far im understanding that limewire itself isnt illegal but the content that u download is. but im only downloading songs is that still as bad? and if it is is there a place u can download free songs? because i don't want to pay a doller to download songs. so please someone respond to this.

Posted by: Annie at March 16, 2008 11:58 AM

Ok... in defense of dave.. HE IS RIGHT. LIMEWIRE ISNT ILLEGAL. THE MATERIAL i.e (Music, videos, movies etc) YOU DOWNLOAD FROM LIMEWIRE IS ILLEGAL. I used to download and I quit and deleted the stuff after I found for myself that it was illegal. My recommendation. "The law keeps the people who will obey it in line, For the people who wont obey it? then they will just get in trouble."

Posted by: Xaisk at March 28, 2008 12:09 PM

who cares if limewire is illegal yeah it is against the law but is just music

Posted by: nmnhkjh at March 30, 2008 9:18 AM

I am a youth Pastor and have been trying to sink this concept into the heads of teens for years. The bootom line is... If it doesn't feel like I am strealinig it, then it must not be stealing. No matter how much a thief justifies and convinces himself that he needs a car and can't pay for it, it still makes him a thief once he takes it. Music is no different
Thank you Dave Taylor for your insight.
Greg

Posted by: Greg Hench at April 2, 2008 5:32 AM

limewire kicks ass. when i hear limewire i think FREE PORN!!!

Posted by: yayyyyyyy at April 3, 2008 2:47 PM

come on people, there are tons of illegal sites on the internet, thus meaning the limewire website itself is NOT ILLEGAL! neither is downloading the application. but, as dave said, it enables you to download and posses illegal content, such as videos, images, but most commonly, audio files.

in a nutshell..
if you download the application, limewire, you have done nothing wrong. hey, maybe you're just curious. okay, but let's say you decide to hit the search button and download your fav justin timberlake song. now you have commited a crime.

it is in all states illegal!
and the charges are very severe.
this although, is not too common.
it's usually completely random.
but, there are ways of putting a huge bull's eye target on you. if you are in anyway selling the songs that YOU stole in the first place, authorities will pin you down faster that you can say oops!

so, in all fairness, just stick to itunes and avoid all this sticky drama;)

Posted by: brandi at April 3, 2008 11:04 PM

i thought it was free when i click on it it tells u to put credit card number in it is confuseing can u help me

Posted by: shannon at April 6, 2008 7:21 PM

Hi Guys,

To anyone reading and thinking of buying Limewire PRO, remember, they do not monitor downloads. If your going to download illegal software you'll find this tip useful, if not, you won't but please don't remove this because if it.

Download Limewire BASIC, search for Limewire PRO and get it for free. Simple? Yes. Illegal? Yes Free? ;). YES.

Posted by: Darren at April 7, 2008 4:05 AM

All the people that are telling you that lime wire is legal are idiots. Its totally illegal and not a bit or a tad, its stealing, period. WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIME WIRE AND GOING TO A MUSIC STORE AND STEALING THE CD'S, NOTHING!!! Who ever downloads lime wire in the first place and keeps it after they know it is illegal is stupid. If you bring your PC to a store to fix it and they see that program they will FINE you. Doesn't that me it's illegal!!!

Posted by: andre at April 11, 2008 6:12 PM

Andre, You are talking out of your a*s. A store will not fine you, they have no interest or the right to. They may advise you uninstall due to security (spyware) etc. but Im willing to put my life on them not fining you.

Posted by: Darren at April 13, 2008 1:59 PM

do not pay for limewire pro you are getting ripped of.

it's just free!!!

Posted by: d at April 18, 2008 12:43 PM

Limewire basic itself is free. Plain and Simple. They offer a Pro version that costs money. Having the program is perfectly legal.

Now, if you use it to download movies, songs, photos, programs etc that are owned by someone else--that is illegal. This means songs you can buy online or at a store, programs you can buy online or at the store, photographs that the original photographer owns, movies produced by a studio.

If I made a song and wanted to share it with others, I could share that song from a folder and tell Limewire to make it available.

If I downloaded a song from Limewire that should have been bought, I committed a crime. If I then make it available for others to download, I have committed another crime. The crime is me downloading it and me sharing it--Limewire is making that possible through my manipulation of the software--again my actions.

So in effect-if you use the software to download protected works, YOU ARE ILLEGAL--not Limewire.

Posted by: Troy P at April 26, 2008 11:26 PM

i have limewire on my computer and im not sure if im downloading un-copyrighted material. is there a way i can tell? or how to tell what's what. like if i download something from the Beatles that's not recent and is copyrighted like the song yellow submarine is it illegal?

Posted by: natasha rader at May 5, 2008 3:43 PM

natasha,

Yes it is illegal, You do not own the song so it is illegal.

Posted by: Synn at May 6, 2008 9:04 PM

To anyone who has paid for limewire BASIC, you have been scammed. It happened to me and my credit details were stolen and sold.

Posted by: John at May 11, 2008 8:02 AM

John, if you paid for Limewire BASIC you deserve to be scammed. BASIC is free.

Posted by: Darren at May 12, 2008 3:45 AM

Apologies if repeating what's up top... There are versions of LimeWire you pay for that give you download credits, thus paying for the songs supposedly. For ex, $9.99 will get you 25 songs at 40 cents a song and $19.99 will get you 75 songs at 27 cents a song. Is this still violation of copyright and stealing of the songs when a fee is paid, though a small one?

Posted by: Rosie at May 15, 2008 8:54 PM

Limewire does not own the "files", so have no right to sell the copyright. Illegal on both yours and their part, although I have NEVER seen the version of this and doubt I ever will.

Posted by: Darren at May 16, 2008 1:49 AM

lotta wimps out there, just download...1 in a million chance of you getting caught

Posted by: Tom at May 29, 2008 4:12 PM

One of my co-workers said he has been using Limewire since 2005 and he was recently summoned to court because of it. He just turned 18, he's downloaded a "ton" of songs. They have a list of everything he has ever downloaded through Limewire and had his full name, address, and they also knew when he uninstalled the program. Just a heads up, people are getting tagged and prosecuted. I don't know how many songs he grabbed, but perhaps it was more than the average joe, but you never know. Hopefully he will just get a small fine and community service but we'll see. I'll try to update after I find out more.

Posted by: kd at June 10, 2008 2:21 PM


ok 1) isn't P2P sharing legal? i mean why then make CD rippers and burners and blank cd's?

And in essence aren't people by using limewire just cutting out the middle man? I mean, instead of burning it onto a cd, giving it to you and then burning it on to your computer. i just leave my computer open to you and let you take it right? ( not too accurate but you get it.)

lets say i download some songs and i dont burn them onto a cd for anyone, i dont SELL the songs to anyone, and i just use it for personal use lets say my ipod, to take to the gym, or i just play it in my house. is that illegal?


oh and if p2p sharing IS illegal feel free to tell me =]

Posted by: Sandy at June 15, 2008 3:13 PM

P2P sharing is just another method of transport. As far as I understand, it is legal if you use it for legal purposes such as distributing software patches that you write or putting your own music online for free download. P2P sharing itself is legal. However, the act of using P2P to download pirated material that you have not purchased is illegal. Whether you just use it on your iPod or you make a bootleg CD and sell it, it does not matter. Both are illegal. Pay a dollar per song or tempt fate? Your call. Me personally, I just download and hope that Peer Guardian does its job :o

Posted by: lw at June 16, 2008 8:50 PM

is it still illegal if you download whatever music you like but don't share it.

Posted by: chaz at July 5, 2008 2:22 PM

Hey stupid ones
Just get it

LimeWire = Knife

Use the knife to chop tomato and cheese , it's completely legal

Now if you use the knife to kill someone, it's Illegal
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Use LimeWire to share family pictures , and Videos you took, and a poem you wrote and maybe a song you wrote and played, IT IS LEGAL


if you use LimeWire to share / Download music , movies , books , images that the owner of these stuff DID NOT allow them to be shared, then it is ILLEGAL
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LimeWire will not crash your computer, UNLESS you downloaded a Virus
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MP3 files cannot hurt your computer

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There's a chance of 0.00001 % of getting caught downloading illegal stuff

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LimeWire WILL NOT give your IP address to ANYBIDY

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Posted by: Dr.Bat at July 19, 2008 7:13 AM

If limewire is illegal why do they put it up on there website?
Its just mental

Please give me an awnswer Dave Taylor

Posted by: SpinachMan at July 24, 2008 4:29 AM

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE SUPPORT NUMBER AT LIMEWIRE. I HAVE SOME CHARGES I NEED TO DISPUTE. CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT?

Posted by: RADIO RAHIM at July 25, 2008 8:19 AM

Okay. EVERYBODY.

LimeWire, the program itself is LEGAL. Sharing of copyrighted material is ILLEGAL. That means if you make a piece of music, record it and share it and YOU LET other people download it, it's perfectly legal. It is ILLEGAL to download stuff that a) is being sold and/or b) has a copyright against sharing.

This is confusing for most people, but then again it's not supposed to be understood properly by 13 year olds, no offence to the people that understand this.

As for the whole "zomg im liek gonna get arrested" You're not. Police and such have much more pressing cases then to arrest some guy downloading the latest 'Britany Spears' song. Frankly the police and the artist don't give a ****. They've already made billions lol.

So yeah. LimeWire, in itself is LEGAL. Downloading copyright stuff off LimeWire is ILLEGAL. Just my little lesson. ^.^

Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2008 6:30 AM

limewire is a very poorly monitored application and in my opinion should be turned off for good. The material on it is questionable to say the least. Not only is a lot of the music and films on there illegal but also you can get x rated material on there too!!! What if your child somehow managed to get hold of this tool and was downloading god knows what????. You can't keep a watch of your kids 24/7. So is anything actaully monitored on there, people could be uploading highly illegal material onto it, and who's there to moderate and ensure that this sort of material is taken off limewire and reported directly to the police??

Posted by: Eldewsio at August 4, 2008 11:50 AM

Basically, limewire is a trap for those easily tempted to download illegal content....
But then in itself the whole thing should be illegal, because it allows you to do so.
I don't use limewire because its illegal, and when my mom found out about it she grounded me from my pc.
>,< not nice.
But, if someone were to use limewire for a long period of time, what are the chances of them getting caught? I know many people use it so I'm curious...

Posted by: Megan at August 11, 2008 12:24 PM

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downloading songs for free being illegal is sooo stupid! i mean half the bands im into i wouldnt be if not for limewire! ive bought cd's BECAUES of limewire. like i downloaded a song and i was like damn! this is pretty cool! i want their cd! also its promoted me to buy concert tickets and band merchandise!

but w/e if ur scared of lime wire just go to you tube and listen to the song there!

Posted by: zak at August 11, 2008 6:21 PM

lime wire should make a better filter to block all the illegal stuff because the current one make me feel like i'll get fined for downloading stuff i didn't know was illegal.


oh ya, suscribe to my videos at www.youtube/fattyproduction !!!!!!!

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Posted by: super rich at August 14, 2008 6:06 PM

no really suscribe..

why aren't you suscribing! it is just like termerary lime wire downloads!!!!

Posted by: super rich at August 14, 2008 6:13 PM

Lime Wire is illegal and thats it. If we all decided 2 download for free music, the music industries will defenitly lose alot of money and due to that less music are created. So think about it... the chance are low to get caught cause there is thousand of people downloadin streaming online everday at every hour. But if ur caught any music industries can sue you for a great ammount of money or jail.

Posted by: Rev at August 24, 2008 7:53 PM

gracis por elprograma limewire

Posted by: atonio at September 8, 2008 11:12 PM

Ok guys lets make this very simple.
DONT USE LIMEWIRE!!!!! just pay for the songs and go to shareware websites and you wont be in any trouble. enough said.....

Posted by: Dan at September 10, 2008 5:49 PM

The new version of LimeWire is introducing a filtering system to encourage safer, more responsible file sharing. Copyright owners interested in blocking their files from being downloaded, uploaded and shared are invited to learn more. In my opinion, this is a good thing. http://www.rosoftdownload.com/download/Windows/LimeWire

Posted by: yman at September 17, 2008 1:02 AM

When downloading audio (music) from limewire, some of the music is in "red". What does this mean?
Aldo, some of the music I'm downloading I cannot burn to a disk. I get an error (red circle w/white x) and the selection will not download; PLEASE HELP ASAP. I eagerly await a response. Thanks.

Posted by: karyn at October 18, 2008 8:32 AM

I had downloaded limewire and music from it. A good friend years back told me about it. I never realized it was wrong with what I was doing. I seriously didn't. It's scary knowing that if you download music you could be fined and even do jailtime. Really, we're just ripping off the artists who make the music we love. That's wrong. I've since deleted it and will never make the mistake again. Thank you for enlightening me, Dave...And for all of those who are worried enough to ask the question if it's illegal? If you are downloading porn or music, then yes...you are breaking the law and consequences could occur...if this is a chance you are willing to take...more power to you...

Posted by: Chatterbox at October 30, 2008 12:49 PM

To those of you who still don't get it, Limewire is LEGAL BUT has illegal content on it.

People use Limewire to put porn, viruses, and illegal content up for download. Most if not all of the content can be downloaded from www.thepiratebay.org.

So uploading or sharing Audio Files aka music or copyrighted material is illegal and also what limewire's main purpose is..

Posted by: Adrian at November 1, 2008 10:55 PM

has anyone heard of instances where limewire automatically downloads music, video, or programs to your computer. If not limewire then a potential virus?

Posted by: Question about downloads at November 13, 2008 1:23 PM

Most of you that are speaking out saying limewire is illegal you are dead wrong. Limewire is 100% legal and can only be used illegally when you download copyrighted material or child pornography. Now the reason why Limewire exist is for the sharing of files.

There are plenty of files today that are not copyrighted, and I dont mean just someones homemade christmas party. I'm talking about full movies can be downloaded from this software legally. Look at it this way, many movies fall out of copyright making it legal to download and share these files legally.

With some softwares it is also perfectly legal to download free trial versions of a program that a company decided to release for promo purposes.

So these among many other reasons Limewire can be used legally , and why your government will not remove p2p sharing networks.

Posted by: Hello at December 12, 2008 12:12 PM

To download or Not to download. This is the question. I received a warning from my internet provider about a file I recently downloaded. Was told that if they found out that I was making a habit of it, I would be punished for breaking copy right laws. Cable and Satellite companies let you rent pay-per view movies. Then offer you a DVR box capable of recording live broadcast shows and movies. You then get to watch those movies that are stored on a hard drive in the DVR box so you can play them back as many times as you like. What's the difference in that or renting a DVD from Blockbuster Video and recording with a DVD Burner. You still payed a rental fee. But one is legal and the other is not?

Posted by: Dan at December 18, 2008 10:48 AM

Okay, so Limewire is legal, and so is iTunes and Window's Media Player, etc. If you buy a song from iTunes, how do you actually know that the artist gets that money? And if you download a song from Limewire and you put it in your iTunes, they can't tell where it came from, right? :s

Posted by: tennischick21 at December 29, 2008 11:54 AM

Everybody who has previously asked why would Limewire continue to allow people to download their software if they know they will use it for illegal purposes, the answer is so simple its intentional and utterly genius, they are of course aware that you will use it for file sharing of copyrighted material and while they publicly assert that they don't condone this behaviour, they are facilitating you. Well done to them and other file sharing programs who have helped revolutionize the music industry in such a way it is no longer a commodity but a choice.

Don't give that crap about the morality issues of downloading Illegally because the public should feel no guilt, the recording industry just wishes to gain a profit, from everything and anything.
I find it sad that the music industry has become something it once fought against have the generations of new artists forgotten, the plight of their older contemporaries who fought to stand up to political correctness and capitalism woodstock '69 anyone jeez the recording industry now resembles what it once opposed haha sad isn't it ,

Posted by: jay at December 31, 2008 4:04 AM

My internet was turned off due to someone monitoring my shared files and seeing that a copyright movie was in there. They made us delete the files before they would turn the computer back on or face copyright charges.

Posted by: Justin at December 31, 2008 9:42 AM

when i turn lime wire on download a song and launch it i have some kind of smutt talk come out of my speakers cant get a song to play
thank you wendy

Posted by: wendy sutterfield at January 2, 2009 7:01 PM

when i download, i immediately move those files to another computer that has never nor will ever be hooked up to the internet. If i technically dont have any mp3s on my online system and i dont share the files, am i breaking the law? because im not distributing and i do not have any mp3s on the online system. Although I do have 130 gigs of mp3s elsewhere. Help?

Posted by: jacob at January 15, 2009 6:41 PM

I bought my Daughter an Ipod Touch for Christmas, and after seeing how much it cost to download MP3's from Itune's store, I started looking for an alternative.. There was this place that advertised a lifetime of mp3 downloads for the Ipod for $49.99.. This being our first Ipod and not knowing any better, I signed up for it and paid for the membership and then was prompted to download their software which turned out to be a peer to peer program like limewire called Mp3 Rocket. So I have proof that I paid by credit card for unlimited downloads for a lifetime.. If anything is illegal it should be what they are doing..

Posted by: Danny at January 26, 2009 5:28 PM

If I were to download prision break episodes that have already been realeased, is that illegal?
I'm from NZ where the copyright law is coming in next month and we won't be able to download anything copyrighted or our internet gets shutdown.

Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2009 6:49 PM

If I were to download prision break episodes that have already been realeased, is that illegal?
I'm from NZ where the copyright law is coming in next month and we won't be able to download anything copyrighted or our internet gets shutdown.

Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2009 6:57 PM

Ok, just to clarify things, if you download ANYTHING that you have not paid for (and it is not lisenced by the original owner to do so for free), then yes, this is illegal, and you can be fined for this. But LimeWire itself is not illegal, as it does distribute some legal content (LimeWire LLC just wants you to monitor your own downlads, as they have no control over content uploaded).

From the New Zealand 2009 Foaly Inc. Copyrighting Team

Posted by: Dr. Fo at February 8, 2009 9:11 PM

i paid to download movies but i cant see them how can i see them i can only hear them thank u what is your number

Posted by: ricardo at March 6, 2009 5:37 PM

Don't use Limewire. It gives you almost no info about the file you are downloading, so it could be a malicious virus, trojan, worm, or keylogger. This happens often. Anything larger than a normal mp3 could easily be a virus that will start attacking your computer before you even do anything with it. Even if it is small, it could be an executable (.exe) that you unwittingly open when you try to play the file.

BitTorrent is a much better option for file-sharing because you can look at the comments about any particular torrent before you decide whether to download it. On good trackers like Pirate Bay or MiniNova, viruses get tagged and boycotted almost instantly.

Plus, Limewire is a massive memory hog. It uses a ton of system RAM even when you aren't using it.

Posted by: Alex at March 31, 2009 6:55 PM

@ricardo
your computer may not have the software to run the particular file type the movie is in.

download VLC media player from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

once it is installed, it will play almost any video or audio file

Posted by: Alex at March 31, 2009 6:59 PM

i've got a friend who says he downloaded transformers 2 is that possible cuz if it is than he is in deep crud

Posted by: jrh at April 19, 2009 7:29 PM

it is illegal if you download copyrited songs but not illegal if they are your own :)

Posted by: talisha patel at May 21, 2009 7:41 AM

ohh la laaaa.People don't panic.
here is how stuff works.
1)you downloaded Lime wire and installed in your computer---IT IS LEGAL
once you installed LimeWire in your computer,it automaticly creating folder which will be shared in future.When you're downloading something from LimeWire,it's saving file in that sharable folder
Usually it's located in...
>Documents>LimeWire>Saved/Incomplete(both folders are sharing files)
2)you just downlaoded music---it is ILLEGAL,but I don't think that Police will knock your door and handcuff you..
more detailed...
once you ILLEGALLY downloaded music(99.99999% it is ILLEGAL) it's saving file in that folder(i just gave you direction).That file is immideatly becoming sharable,and other people may download it FROM YOU(they are NOT downloading that file from LimeWire company,they are downloading that file DIRECTLY FROM YOUR COMPUTER,which is safe,don't worry).
THAT IS ILLEGAL TO KEEP COMPYRIGHTED FILES IN SHARABLE FOLDERS,that's MORE dangerous then to illegally downlaod music(or any other copyrighted file).
so...if you still want to use LimeWire for downloading music(once again,which is illegal),then after downloading,REMOVE THAT FILE FROM SHARABLE FOLDER to another one(for example desktop,or any other non-sharable place).
3)MY RECOMMENDATION IS.....
c'mon......c'moooon people
why the heck you need thousands of music?I'm pretty sure that 99% of you are listening to upto 20-30 songs.which is equal to 20-40$.Buy them legally from iTunes or any other companies.Dont risk your life lolz
you'll be able to listen to those songs before buying them...if you don't like,don't buy.Buy only high quality songs.
beeee carefullllll,there are THOUSANDS of hackers waiting their targets in LimeWire.DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS TO DOWNLAD MUSIC.90% of files in limewire are viruses.yesss,BELIVE ME they containing crypto viruses,spywares.
just type something with no meaning and search in lime wire...for example...search for
"skahgailsghalish3gaihgeirg"...you'll find results lol,hidden viruses.
now type any song name for example.
Eminem "so crack the bottle"
you'll find 400-500 results.75% of them are less then musicFile size...for example..if you find music which is 100KB only,then never downlad it,cz real music is atleast 3MB.
there are viruses EVERYWERE in limewire.Everytime you searching for something...be careful.use antivirus WITH FIREWALL.
bye,that's enough lol,I got fingureAche Lol

Posted by: Vardan at May 22, 2009 6:23 PM

When i read your article, i deleted limewire straight away. Thanks for the advice because now i know the danger of downloading music files from limewire

Posted by: sara at May 29, 2009 6:11 AM

They say that Limewire is legal, but downloading and sharing copyrighted materials is not. In short, Limewire is only a tool, up to the users to use it for piracy or not.

I have a question about above excuse. If ALL of the users use it for piracy, wouldn't it be a reason for law enforcers to ban the Limewire altogether? Consider other similar examples : lock breakers, nunchucks, parangs, guns, ... you name them. In some countries, those items are banned, because most of the people use it for illegal purposes (robbery, murders, etc).

Anyway, what I have mentioned above is only examples, by no means I intended to offense any people.

Posted by: Tony at June 19, 2009 4:16 AM

Limewire is like a Flea Market which gives robbers a place to make money off stolen goods. In return the robbers usually donate money to the Flea market for using the tables. Now the chances the consumer getting caught and charged for stolen property is highly unlikely, but possible. However, Limewire, or the "Flea Market" technically does not steal the property or monitors what is getting sold there. The turn the other way and only concerned of making money themselves and they know what is going on, but will never openly admit it.

Posted by: Chris at June 19, 2009 7:26 PM

I've used Lime Wire for months, up until it, stopped working, took forever for it to download, computor kept saying it was still connecting to system, hours later, nothing, downloaded limewire 5.whatever, it was garbage, screen saver pixeled, and was unreadable, what's going on?

Posted by: Kevin at June 29, 2009 9:35 PM

What Limewire all boils down to is artists receiving more recognition and fans via limewire. Little do you know but the reason why artists don't sue limewire is simply because limewire supplies the artists of fans and more recognition. I mean sure they receive tons of money from live concerts, record deals, etc. But they increase their popularity and likeliness of being a top artist, so entirely limewire is actually a positive for the distributed artist (THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE)

Posted by: Andrew Y, at July 12, 2009 7:33 PM

A WORD OF ADVICE - IF YOU DONT KNOW, DONT USE IT. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LIMEWIRE TYPE APPLICATIONS ON THE INTERNET, LIMEWIRE IS JUST MORE MUSIC BASED. THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO HIDE EVERYTHING YOU DO ON LIMEWIRE BUT FOR IDIOTS WHO DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING STAY AWAY. YOUR THE REASON WHY PEOPLE CREATE VIRUSES.

IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING YOU CAN EASILY GET PAST THE SILLY VIRUSES AND ENJOY YOUR DOWNLOAD. ALSO, IF YOUR SMART ENOUGH YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANYTHING - DVD, BLU-RAY, PC APPLICATION, VIDEO GAME, MOVIES STILL IN THEATERS, ETC FROM THE INTERNET OR USING OTHER LIMEWIRE TYPE APPLICATIONS. ITS ILLEGAL BUT PEOPLE DO IT EVERYDAY. LIMEWIRE ITSELF IS NOT ILLEGAL ITS JUST A PROGRAM, AND DONT THINK THAT LIMEWIRE ACTUALLY PROVIDES THE SONGS BECAUSE YOUR DUMB IF YOU DO. ITS LIKE SAYING THAT YOUR "INTERNET EXPLORER" IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY WEB PAGE ON THE INTERNET, AND RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY USER WHO ACCESSES (DOWNLOADS) ILLEGAL CONTENT. DOES THAT MEAN INTERNET EXPLORER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WEBSITES POSTING ILLEGAL CONTENT? NO! ITS JUST AN APPLICATION.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE - IMAGINE YOUTUBE, THEY DONT PROVIDE THE MOVIE CLIPS, PEOPLE DO! BUT IF SOMEONE UPLOADED A COPYRIGHTED MOVIE LIKE TRANSFORMERS 2 FOR EVERYONE TO WATCH THEYRE PROBABLY GOING TO BE ARRESTED, AND ANYONE WHO DOWNLOADED IT TO THEIR COMPUTER BROKE THE LAW TOO. SO WOULD THAT MAKE YOUTUBE ILLEGAL? NO! THE PROBLEM WITH LIMEWIRE IS THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING SHARED IS COPYRIGHTED, BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE ITS NOT A PROBLEM FOR THOSE KNOWING WHAT YOUR DOING.

SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE I JUST HAD TO SAY SOMETHING AFTER READING ALL THE POSTINGS, MOST OF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. AND FOR OTHER MUSICIANS OUT THERE, FACE IT, MUSIC DOWNLOADED ILLEGALLY IS HERE TO STAY. WE NEED TO ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON, TRY TO USE IT TO OUR ADVANTAGE!

Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2009 11:08 PM

LimeWire is in no way shape or form illegal people. Get over your moral standards, and face facts. LimeWire is legal; the purpose some people use it for is. Saying LimeWire is illegal (here comes another metaphor) would be like saying that automobiles are illegal because one could use it to run someone over. Doesn't make much sense, does it? The music industry should be thanking LimeWire. Thousands of people have probably discovered unknown bands BECAUSE OF LimeWire.

And, iTunes is a load of bull too. They only feature popular artists, and they take a 35% cut out of every song and album purchase, not to mention, the digital distributor gets more money than the artist too. LimeWire gives artists exposure. Not to mention, big time artists should make enough money from album sells and live concerts anyway. Honestly, do they really need the money? I think not...

Posted by: Anthony at August 9, 2009 3:10 AM

I can't find certain songs here in America on iTunes. I try my best, but it never finds it. Limewire is the only site that offers my music, but if downloading is illegal, what site can I use to find my songs? No, I don't want free downloads, I only used limewire because it was the only site that offered my type of music.

Posted by: Mika at September 8, 2009 10:20 PM

if it is illegal everyone downloading it and the distributers would be fined arrested ect. So It obviously isnt illegal

Posted by: Tay at September 20, 2009 1:23 PM

hey dave, so how can you tell if the content is illegal or not... does limewire say or just hide it?

Posted by: jondoe at September 20, 2009 3:34 PM

Just like it's not the responsibility of a parking lot attendant to tell you which cars in the lot might be stolen, it's not the responsibility of the Limewire team to indicate which material is legal and authorized and which is illegal and a copyright violation. That's your responsibility as a consumer and it's really pretty easy: if you see a free download of a commercial movie like Harry Potter or a free audio file that contains the latest pop CD, those are going to be illegal. If it's a home-made video or an indie band's single, or a PDF document of someone's research into whether the Apollo project was a hoax, well, that's probably more likely to be legit. :-)

Posted by: Dave Taylor at September 21, 2009 8:42 AM

Dave, this is the most spectacular comment section of a post I've ever seen. I couldn't stop laughing. Good work.

Posted by: Andy - The Digitante at September 23, 2009 8:45 AM

I AM SO CONFUSED! Are you saying that it is illegal to download one of the latest songs? I love music and when theres a new song on the charts, i want it on my Ipod! Of course, im only 14 and i dont have the money to pay $1.29 a song! It's crazy! I dont want to do anything illegal! Im not gonna reporduce any song or cell them, I just want to listen to them! I also dont want to explain why we are getting fined $2500 for every song that ive downloaded. Please Help!

Posted by: ~FunSized~ at September 27, 2009 12:28 PM

I don't see why poeple have trouble understanding this. Limewire in itself is not illegal however (After seeing Kazza go down in a flaming pile and the interesting and most amusing recent debace that is pirate bay !) recently it seems being an accesory to copyright infringement/piracy is becoming a crime.

Perhaps we can put it simpler. In the country where Limewire is made they are aallowed to do what they do (Prolificate Piracy) however in the country that you live in it is illegal to do what you are doing (Pirating via the limewire tool)

People saying things along the lines of 'If it was illegal people would get arrested' must not read the newspapers or watch the news. The laws surrounding these issues are pretty convoluted and sometimes hard to understand but ultimately your doing petty crime. Just be carefull you don't fall into deeper waters.

(An Australian Student was fined $260, 000 dollars for sharing 1 Terrabyte of pirated media via the university local network.)

Posted by: Ian Ridgwell at September 29, 2009 1:35 AM

Well , Limewire can be used for good purpouses, and still can be used for bad purpouses. Depent how you use it.

Posted by: Sokobanja at October 5, 2009 6:36 PM

i am only 12 so i have no money. is it okay to download porn here and is it free. thank you

Posted by: liljeffery at October 25, 2009 7:23 AM

I SAY ITS LEGEL!!!! i mean the artist ppls who made the songs only want ppl to be happy and don't care about the money ^_^ so i say legal!!!! Fight for this cause or you might never hear the music again ever !!! becuase rpices are high and you just buy a cd at the store and get ripped off x.x like he said theres a tes tthing to make sure if your not going to downlaod music and plegrize it yes im bad with spelling :P :D anyway as i said its legel i know it is ^-^ otherwise this site wouldn't have been here anyway

Posted by: maria at November 13, 2009 9:39 PM

i mean seroiusly ppl that copy it and sell it just ruin it for everyone whenever you sell something thats not yours your not only hurting yourself your hurting everyone else T-T it reallly hurts when you ruin it for otehr ppl so plz keep limewire alive and don't copy the music and sell to others i luv limewire because i want to listen to my favorite songs over again without having to go back on theRADIO.com and go thoguth a long list of songs just to get to my fav again it stinks so whoevers on my side im glad you are ^-^ and its ok if your not :)

Posted by: Maria at November 13, 2009 10:09 PM

Well, what about this?

I understand that Limewire is not legal, but is used for Illegal purposes, in a way.

They say, 'it's the distribution of copyrighted material.'

Well, what if you just use it in the safety of your own home, and you don't burn Cd's or anything? I mean, I use Limewire, and I don't burn Cd's or anything, I just use it for personal music.

So, is that still Illegal?

Posted by: Chris at November 17, 2009 8:38 PM

ask dave taylor is not a credible site. this is the police and everyone who has used Limewire here are guilty, and will be searched and arrested.

Posted by: Sergant Johnson at November 18, 2009 12:55 PM

so is limewhire legal or not?

Posted by: edward cullen at November 20, 2009 1:20 PM

ok a lot of people done understand limewire is not illegal. let me try to explain what is ok

say i bought a jay-z cd ripped the songs to my computer then i proceded to use lime wire to share them with other people then that is illegal because i have no right to share the songs or whatever else like software ect.

if i made a song and decided i want to share it then anyone can download that.

Ubuntu has a torrent download you can use various p2p programs to get it idk if limewire has a a torrent client.

limewire is not ilegal what people share maybe

Posted by: kevin at December 20, 2009 12:56 AM

Majority of people on the internet used limewire to download illegal contents. That is fact.
And plus people share those files that aren't allowed to be shared of.
Liwewire doesn't have control to those files, letting piracy on the world get worst.

Analysis: To protect the music industry and discourage people not to download illegal contents,
Limewire should be tun off!!.

Posted by: Mark at December 27, 2009 9:03 PM

Another Analysis:

There should be a law that will force any p2p programs such as Limewire, Bittorrent and online file storage like Rapidshare.com to monitor any files that is going to be shared.
Else program that is letting those copyrighted files to be easily shared will be shut down forever!

Effects: Music and software industry will boost up. Piracy will dramatically slow down.

I also understand in our economic condition that some people can't afford to buy those copyrighted files. I suggest that prices to those files should be low.

Posted by: Mark at December 27, 2009 9:37 PM

ok how could i tell if the song or movie i download is copyright or not

and copyright mean u cant copy it right?

i need answers plz

Posted by: mike at December 29, 2009 12:54 PM

@mike, my idea is that all music,software, ebooks owners should be link to one centralized database.

Centralized database = Files that is flag as 'Copyright' will disallow to download copyrighted files on the internet.

Could be better if there's one centralized security that will check and put password on every files.

Idea: Centralized Security Monitoring.

Posted by: Ken at December 30, 2009 6:51 AM

This is one crazy discussion. Why is it so complicated to comprehend?

and mike if you want to be able to tell if something is copyrighted or not click Tools, then click options. You'll see a check box saying "Don't let me download or upload files copyright owners request not be shared" and a link saying "Learn more" beside it. i hope you can understand what it is saying.

Just as how (from someone way near the middle top area) if you don't want to download porn just check the "Don't show adult content in search results" box.

Then again there are probably ways to bypass both of these options if you still had them checked. Glad i could help!

Posted by: Bryson at January 7, 2010 1:56 AM

Right, if Limewire was an illegal software people would they openly put on there website where there head office was and be trying to recruit Errrr No!

Posted by: Jordan Mmmm at January 15, 2010 2:18 PM

Wow lots of replies –

Limewire is legal software to own and use- Use of the software to share files is legal - But if you use it to upload or download files that are “copy” protected makes it a crime and they have made examples of a lot of people “sharing”.

Now with that said I provide a 30 day warrantee on all repairs (IE: virus removal) to my shops customers - All invoices state if peer to peer software is found on your computer you void any warrantee! (Limewire, Bit Torrent or any peer to peer) but it is in legal terms.

I do this not because you’re a douche for stealing but I do it because I know you are going to infect your computer again and again making for a loyal customer!

And no I’m not an attorney BUT I did Stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Posted by: Germantown Computers at February 5, 2010 12:15 PM

Just a curious question, I own alot of cd's... I mean alot. If I wanted to use limewire to download the "good" songs instead of sorting all those discs is that still illegal if im just dowloading copies of things I have already? Limewire would be so much faster to find them and build a playlist compared to ripping each cd and then making list and burning.

Posted by: idontknow at February 5, 2010 10:38 PM

Nice question, idontknow, you have finally brought up something that I think can reasonably be considered a gray area. If you own the physical CD and are using Limewire to download digital versions rather than rip them, well, I'm not sure it'd be illegal because you already own the rights to the CD by virtue of you having purchased it.

If you did, through some extraordinary bad luck, get busted by the RIAA, though, you'd need to show that every single digital CD you had was matched 1:1 with a physical CD you owned.

Posted by: Dave Taylor at February 5, 2010 11:08 PM

Limewire is both legal and illegal to use for mp3 and other downloads. just have to figure out what is and is not legal. go to myspace.com and search for a band profile, or go to purevolume.com and search there too.. here's an example of purevolume..

http://www.purevolume.com/doorsdown

they have some songs for download with no cost. only problem is nobody know if its the real band who made it or if it was a fan. but its a band profile. sometimes you can find songs not released on CDs on profiles which could possible show proof if a profile is real or not.

just search for a song on some site that has a bands profile to see if its free to download there b4 downloading from limewire. because if cops or FBI decide to hunt people down faster and see you downloaded music. your going to want proof that you pretty much have permission to download it.

Posted by: Josh at February 9, 2010 10:34 PM

btw idontknow you have every right to download the contents of the CDs you own because you have it already, no different from ripping what you own to downloading what you own. only thing is when you download with limewire, it goes to the limewire folder chosen for downloads and anyone who wants to download that same song is able to download it after you get it. be sure to move the song(s) from the limewire folder after downloading to prevent others from downloading so they dont take what they didnt pay for. and dont put ripped content in the limewire folder, that just puts you in a bad spot too because thats basically distibuting to other who have not bought the CD yet.

Posted by: Josh at February 9, 2010 10:39 PM

Just thought of something.. Limewire is the same as a emulator and rom. an emulator is a video game (gameboy, super nintendo, playstation ext..) and a rom is the game for it in a computer version. it is illegal to download a emulator and rom UNLESS you own that emulator and rom in real life. such as my playstation and VR Missions. I have them both in real life, I also have the same things on my computer, since so Im able to have it legally untill i get rid of my ps1 or vr mission, which i will never do :P

Posted by: Josh at February 9, 2010 10:44 PM

Wow, it's clear from all the comments from brainwashed, bootstepping drones on here that the vast majority of people have no idea what copyright law is and how it came into being. The founders of this country, who wrote the Constitution, were almost unanimously in agreement that there was NO NATURAL RIGHT to a piece of intellectual property. Unfortunately, printing presses in their time were fairly expensive, so they included copyright into the Constitution in order to give printing press operators a monetary incentive to publish authors works. They specified, however, that such copyright was to only last a "limited" time and that thereafter the published work would be in the public domain. Unfortunately for us, they did not specify exactly how long this short time period should be, so the original law has been twisted and expanded over time by the influence of business interests to their current expiration time of 100 years after the authors death in most cases (in some cases copyright NEVER expires) and to also extend to all manner of works for which it was never originally intended, musical recordings being an example of one such type.
Anyway, the whole point of the above rambling screed is that copyright was originally intended to foster and promote the sharing of intellectual property, NOT TO STIFLE IT!! The current state of copyright law in America is a total perversion of the founders original intent.
So, in short:
Is downloading copyright material illegal? YES
Should you do it anyway? HELL YES

Posted by: tfurp at February 22, 2010 8:53 AM

How can I change my user name and / or my comps. username?

Posted by: Mike at March 6, 2010 11:28 AM

im sorry for downloading it i did not realize it until i read this so if any law enforcment people read all of our comment im sorry for downloading it and i delete it and all the movie i download considering i only use it for 2 days and two movie download so sorry for download it and i did not know it was illegal

Posted by: basdo at March 9, 2010 1:10 AM

hello dave,
i have a question. i hope i havent passed it on the way down but i dont think i have.
With the new penalties for downloading data illegally in New Zealand (shutting off internet) is there anyway that using limewire to donwload music could incur that? can they trace or track it?

dont get me wrong, last month i spent 150 on itunes, but i also download popular music on limewire so i just feel like i should say sometimes the ones that do illegal things also spend more money legally aswell.

Posted by: allie at March 10, 2010 9:25 PM

what does it mean when limewire says"cannot monitor P2P download without a license"?

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