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How does MSN Search's Search Builder function work?

Dave, I know that you're a fan of Google, but I've been trying to work with MSN Search instead, just to see how they're trying to crack the search nut. It's pretty darn cool, but, of course, their search language is totally different to what Google has. On the other hand, they have this way cool, but confusing 'Search Builder'. Can you step me through how to use Search Builder, please?


Dave's Answer:

You've pegged me. I'm a Google bigot at this point and rarely journey to other seach engines. But your message inspired me to check out MSN Search and find out what they've been working on. And, well, Search Builder is just phenomenally cool!

If you're used to Google's secret search language of site:, intitle: and so on, you already know that search engine queries can be quite a bit more sophisticated than just "find matches to this two word phrase". But knowing what special sequences to use, that's another story.

Kudos to the MSN Search team for solving this problem in an innovative and fun way. When you go to MSN Search, click on the "+Search Builder" link, and you'll promptly see this:

MSN Search Builder

The pop-up here lets you choose between "All of these terms", "Any of these terms", "This exact phrase" and "None of these terms", which right there is a great step towards better search engine usability!

Notice the set of tabs on the left side, though: Search terms, Site/Domain, Links to, Country/Region, Language and Results ranking. Choose "Site/Domain" and here's what you see:

MSN Search Builder, Site/Domain tab

Quite a bit easier to work with than Google's site: notation, I must say, and what's most important is that as you specify various constraints to your search and add them, you quickly learn the shorthand notation. Want to limit your search to just .edu sites? Turns out that's expressed in the search language as site:.edu.

Hands down, though, the most interesting facet of MSN Search's Search Builder is the last tab, "Results ranking". You can just tell from this screenshot that it's going to be cool:

MSN Search Builder, Results ranking tab

It turns out that with MSN Search you can tweak various search result rankings, including how recently the content has been updated, how popular the resultant pages are (based on the number of inbound links) and whether it's an exact or approximate match. To find popular and recent Web pages that exactly match "tintin, boy reporter", for example, I tweak the three sliders appropriately and find that the search is:

tintin boy reporter {popl=100} {mtch=0} {frsh=100}

Which tells us that if you want to always have the freshest possible results, use the notation {frsh=100}, and so on.

This search construction tool is well worth a look and enough to get me to try out some of my favorite searches on MSN Search too now!

Tip: there's a very good MSN Search weblog worth reading, and they also talk about working with Results ranking in detail.









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Wow Dave,

I've always been a Google nut like you but I too will have to check out MSN's search tool. Maybe Google will have to work on making their advanced search features easer to use. As much as I like Google it is a bit Geekish in may ways. Still it's hard to believe that the results could be any better they just might be easer to get.

All we need is now is for Microsoft to take over search engine market in addition to everything else they have. I don't think that would be good for the industry as a whole.

Anyway I will have to check it out,

F Woodman Jr

PS Keep up the good work your articles are usually right on the spot.

Posted by: F Woodman Jr at May 5, 2005 1:46 PM

To me this is more than a simple "choice" between Google and MSN. In fact, you can watch a really interesting debate featuring Google vs Bing (did Bing steal information from google?) at Matt Cutts blog.

Personally, I use Google. Google has been providing the most relavent results, in a quick and easy format. Bing, on the other hand seems to be more cluttered, the results tend to be less relavent, and from the users point of view it is overall a less intutuitive and enjoyable experience.

Microsoft loses million every year on Bing, and without their own funding, they will remain unprofitable. I believe Bing is hoping to earn more marketshare by "bashing" Google as a monopoly and stealing whatever they can from the upset users.

Ironic really, how Microsoft will bash Google as a Monopoly :)

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