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How do I set a Microsoft Word document to be exactly 25 lines per page?Do you have any idea how to set a document in Microsoft Word to have exactly 25 lines per page? That's what the agents and publishers I'm approaching want as a standard format, (1" margins and 25 lines) but every attempt I've made to do that has fallen short one way or another -- the occasional 24 or 26 lines. Any ideas? I've queried a lot of my other writer friends, but their solutions don't quite work. They may not be Mac folks. Help! If you don't have an answer I'm going to be doing a lot of line counting and eyeballing of pages. An interesting question and one whose answer is more subtle than it may initially seem. I asked my friend Allan Wyatt, author of my favorite Microsoft Word Tips newsletter, for his assistance. Here's what he shared with me: "It is probably because he has orphan/widow control turned on for the paragraph styles he is using. Turn it off, and it should be fine." Before I show you how to do that, however, let's look at how to set a document to have 25 lines per page. It's ridiculously complex, sorry to say. Here's what Allan explains: "There is no setting where you indicate "number of lines per page" because most places never worry about that anymore. Instead, you have to calculate it.
If you can follow all of that, you can set your document to be exactly 25 lines per page. Good luck!
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Tagged: microsoft word, word for mac, word for windows Previous: What does "white hat" and 'black hat" mean? Next: Erase Google search box cache in Firefox? Reader Comments To Date: 6Dave Taylor said, on August 7, 2006 7:21 PM:
Good tip, Dave, but you're solving a different problem. Getting numbered lines is straightforward, as you say. Getting to have a fixed number of lines on each page is considerably more tricky. Barry said, on August 9, 2006 10:20 AM:
Actually, Dave, Dave's (This could get confusing!) solution makes use of Word's line-numbering feature to avoid both the calculations in your solution and the necessity of counting lines in the OP's current practice. Dave (Starr) makes this clear in his last two paragraphs. One thing that's not clear in his post, though is how adjustments to the 'side' (ie. left and right) margins changes the number of lines on a page. My choice would be the top and bottom margins, with the larger change assigned to the bottom margin. Also, assuming Word permits saving empty documents with assigned margin, spacing, font and size settings, the last step in the process would be to delete the text from a copy of the document, then save it as a template for future use. Regards, lima said, on May 17, 2008 7:07 AM:
Can anyone help? I am trying to figure out how to do cascading text in Word Lima said, on November 18, 2008 8:13 AM:
how to cascade paragraph or text in ms word? Alistair Langford-Wilson said, on September 1, 2009 2:04 PM:
This is a bit late to help the original person, but in case anyone else would like to know ... Word does indeed have a feature for specifying the number of lines per page (often called a "baseline grid" in typography or design circles). This divides the usable portion of the page into a fixed number of lines or spaces, and sets the type (wherever possible) within those lines. The feature is not normally enabled in Word. That's because Microsoft implemented the feature for certain languages that absolutely require it, such as Japanese. In order to access and use the feature, you must tell Word to install those features (even though you won't actually type Japanese, of course). The instructions for enabling it may be slightly different for Word 2003 and Word 2007. Here are the instructions for Word 2007: 1. Shut down Word.
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The method described certainly can be made to work ... but it's perhaps overly complex. Word has much simpler tools built in.
Line numbering is a very common requirement in legal contract work, depositions and court reporting, screen-writing and some other professional uses of Word. It is built in and very easy to use:
See Word Help:
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Add line numbers to an entire document
On the File menu, click Page Setup, and then click the Layout tab.
In the Apply to box, click Whole document.
Click Line Numbers.
Select the Add line numbering check box, and then select the options you want.
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An average page of double-spaced text in 10 or 12 point fonts is 25 lines ... and if submitting work to a publisher double spaced is almost always what they want.
So I would first do as you suggest, turn off "widows and orphans", type what I needed to say ... fiddling with lines per page while creating sounds counter-productive, Then turn on double line spacing and turn on line numbering. I tried this on a couple documents and the adjusting to get 25 lines per page is very easy, at worst just a couple clicks in or out on the default side margins.
You can print the document with line numbers on, or save and turn line numbers off before printing as required by your customer.
Hope this helps
Dave